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Deleted User
windows defender is all you need
NoTeefy
@Deleted User it's the first thing I deactivate through the registry when reinstalling W10. But yeah, it made some progress compared to W7
NoTeefy
I always compare it to Valve's VAC. If you hope to get rid of all cheaters, you're out of luck 😄
Nekin
Nice new tools ! Always a good thing for the community ! thx @NoTeefy
Deleted User
i'd argue that windows defender + their virtualization based security is better than any other av
NoTeefy
@Deleted User you're forgetting about the masses of data other AV providers are gathering each day and most of them provide virtualization aswell, not even talking about them having their drivers at kernel 0
Deleted User
microsoft is gathering the same data
NoTeefy
There's literally no additional feature shipped with it that my Avast Premier couldn't provide^^
NoTeefy
I doubt that. Just compare the usages
Deleted User
microsoft's hypervisor is running at 'ring -1'
Deleted User
avast probably uses some undocumented os features to provide the same security that windows defender provides
NoTeefy
Also, Windows Defender already shits its pants if you're hex-editing a file, thus modifying its checksum
Deleted User
badly written av drivers are a huge problem for microsoft
NoTeefy
there's literally no advantage for an av from kernel 0 and -1
Deleted User
how so
NoTeefy
but yeah, it's probably more of a personal problem I suppose. Which provider would you like to handle your data to? 😄
NoTeefy
Malware can't run at -1 without zero day exploits
NoTeefy
and WD won't do shit against zero days anyways
Deleted User
if you're at ring 0 you can get to ring -1 with no problems
Deleted User
you shouldn't even be able to get to ring 0 without signing your driver