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#xxl

Failentin
Like, to me it seems like it depends on after which hit you grab them
Noxus94
Well, up to this date I'm not even sure if the grab timing of lions is bugged or supposed to be so tiny
Failentin
It only works consistently if you used a power hammer to stun them
Noxus94
nah, it's definitly consistant for me. The time window is just barely half a second
Simaf
Actually Noxus, through your speech, I feel like you're speaking theory. I tried to measure each segment where the combo makes you save time
Simaf
In Helvetia, you can save up to 2s because you don't stop walking AND you can grab a roman even if you're not absolutely close to him
Simaf
A lot of places make you save around 1-2s like that...
Simaf
If you add them all, the main problem still is Greece lions in the bath section, but the rest needs to have good backups in order to make the alternative helmets collection faster.
Simaf
Basically, in for the lions, you would like to defeat only one lion quickly.
Simaf
The advantage of PH is that you can hit a lion, use PH on one of them, and going back a little bit. The combo will stun the lion more time and you'll cover some distance (using the combo) __before__ you stun the lion. So you're a lot closer to the first log before he can attack you.
Simaf
If you don't have PH, you'll have to cover more distance by walking and the lion will recover faster...
Simaf
I know it's possible to beat only one lion pretty fast, but I don't know how to make it consistent.
Simaf
(I also don't know if all of this explanation was clear or not x) )
Noxus94
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You definitly lose time in that lion room without the PH, but it *might* still be faster to do it without rather than using the merchant and grabbing the extra helmets
Noxus94
and I don't know where you want to save the 2 secs in Helvetia exactly? What fight?
Failentin
We use PH on the last two Romans of the first fight in Helvetia
Noxus94
ahm, no we don't? We are under potion influence the entire time (unless you mess up)
Noxus94
if you mean the two hiding
Noxus94
then just dash through them
Noxus94
it's just as fast