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#unfair-xxl

mr.neutrality
Wait I just saw in schmelings no death greece run that this tortoise retracted its spears. Does it only do this while you haven't pushed the first log in?
schmeling65
remember my pain I went through :KEKW: it is definelty 100% possible without twister, but Rome... in theory yes, in practic: have fun 48h+ :Obelul:
schmeling65
Actually I am smiling right now. Finally someone who thinks the same way as I do. Could become interessting.
mr.neutrality
How would one kill a perma spear tortoise?
schmeling65
`It's actually possible to hit a formation whose spears are always out, but it's tricky...`
schmeling65
I have done that with the first turtle in ghaul
pegperegogaucho
I just checked, the archers, lions and the formation are all one squad (enemy group). The formation is supposed to walk back and forth, along the stone wall and will retract its spears when it reaches the side to the rocks, but will only do so if all other enemies are at their position. It's difficult to explain, but sometimes it can become stuck and not move back to the other position, infinitely keeping its spears out. If you kill the archers + lions it should work fine, though? :pepegeHmm:
pegperegogaucho
It depends on what the environment is like, but you can hit the small upper portion of the shields without running into the spears
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pegperegogaucho
You can even do this when jumping, but you always seem to get hit, I could not manage to do it without getting damaged :FrogThinking:
pegperegogaucho
Another way is to get Obelix/Asterix (Sidekick) to kill it, but this is kind of inconsistent. I'm not sure when the sidekick AI will decide to punch, sometimes it will just keep running into the enemy, sometimes it will chase it down and kill it :Obelul:
alatinn
Are you talking about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDpd9_cFSLs&t=33s
alatinn
Also, I feel like I kinda know how to encourage the sidekick to punch, but it's hard to describe
alatinn
And not consistent when a turtoise is moving and activating spears
pegperegogaucho
What are you referring to?
mr.neutrality
Yeah it was stuck on the second log and tried to move when there were divers around Nope everything besides the infintite? respawning divers was dead:Obelul:
alatinn
Trying to jump on a turtoise with deployed spears without taking damage
pegperegogaucho
I think the problem was the log that you pushed in, it seems to bug out the pathfinding and make the formation walk into the walls and get stuck :peepoExit:
mr.neutrality
Going up the elevator resulted it bugged out of the way into the wall:Obelul:
pegperegogaucho
Yup, you can also jump on them as well! Another good trick, works with all formations. You can also hit them like that
alatinn
Harder on squared triple turtoises though. Triangle and flat squared are okayish