| Martyste Tendertail | You can enjoy making art regardless on your skills. But if a difficult as heck game crashes on you, literally erasing effort you put into trying to progress through it, that will never be fun.
Even if something can objectively be a waste of time ( as, time not spent earning money ), it doesn't mean it isn't purely useless, if it's *fun*.
That reminds me of Rubin's 3D XXL items. We barely could put them to use in the original game, I only recall 2 items imported over, but Rubin had *fun* doing so and sharing his work to the team. |
| Martyste Tendertail | And I like to consider that every art piece you make puts you a little bit more forward than the previous, learning more and more as you go. Not making cash from one art doesn't mean it wasn't significant in your learning curve. |
| Martyste Tendertail | Taking my own year of 2020 as an example, where I finally got my first commissions, most of my progress was actually performed through personal/free art... |
| PegPeregoGaucho | improvement sure, but theres a skill ceiling |
| PegPeregoGaucho | and i was not talking about fun, thats something else... why do you bring that up? Of course you need to entertain yourself somehow |
| Martyste Tendertail | Because Stinkek mentionned it in her original message. Not pulling it out of thin air. |
| Martyste Tendertail | As I quote, "more enjoyable" |
| PegPeregoGaucho | yes, thats why i didnt bring it up before |
| Martyste Tendertail | All in all, we all have our opinions on art and it's usefulness in society, that's respectable, but as Stinkek pointed out, your reaction was a bit mean, and I don't think it was another matter of sarcasm, hm? All opinion can be discussed, for as long as everyone remains civic to others :)
It does look like that the discussion was over before I arrived a bit late tho. I don't really wanna wake up all again to extend on something that looks closed, beyond stating my own opinion, as I was at least briefly mentionned... |
| PegPeregoGaucho | if you dont want to extend it, then dont extend it |
| Martyste Tendertail | Looking from afar, trying to evaluate the usefulness between two recreational activities does look a little bit pointless. |
| PegPeregoGaucho | it should be very clear actually |
| Martyste Tendertail | I only realised the discussion was over a few hours ago by time of writing my previous message, hence why I chose to conclude now. |
| PegPeregoGaucho | as i said, if you dont want to extend it, then dont extend it |
| PegPeregoGaucho | no excuses |
| Martyste Tendertail | I don't think you understood. I though the discussion was fresh when I started writing here. A situation when yes, it's suitable to extend.
Then only when I realised Stinkek and Noxus were already offline that I chose not to discuss further points I still did not state to this moment. End of the topic till perhaps Stinkek states something again, as she is the most concerned in the debate 🙂 |
| PegPeregoGaucho | dude, you can not tell me, that you read through all of the messages and *somehow* missed the timestamp |
| Martyste Tendertail | What, it never happens to you? |
| PegPeregoGaucho | yeah, im not blind |
| Martyste Tendertail | There's a difference between blindness and not paying attention to something while being focused on another, you know. But I don't think it's the time to querell for such an insignificant thing, no? |